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I posted this in another thread but decided to start a new topic in case anyone was interested who didn't read it. Basically I think we are between what they call a rock and a hard place. On the one hand we can keep growing economically but it will eventually lead to a population collapse and the end of economic growth or we can try to implement a no-growth economy but that means there will be much less stuff to go around. There doesn't seem to be any alternative but very, very bad times ahead. Not a good political message but it may reflect the physical reality.

The information can be found at the website of the Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy at

They have a pretty impressive list of signatures including the following:

E. O. Wilson, Professor of biology at Harvard University; author of Sociobiology, The Ants, The Diversity of Life, Consilience, and many other books; winner of the U.S. Ntrational Medal of Science; Pulitzer Prize winner; Crafoord Prize winner; member of the National Academy of Sciences.

Jane Goodall, World-renowned primatologist; United Nations Messenger of Peace; Commander of the Order of the British Empire; recipient of the Medal of Tanzania; member of the advisory board of BBC Wildlife magazine.

Maude Barlow, Chairperson of the Council of Canadians; co-founder of the Blue Planet Project; councilor on the World Future Council; winner of the Right Livelihood Award; former Senior Advisor on Water to the United Nations; author of Blue Covenant: The Global Water Crisis and the Coming Battle for the Right to Water, as well as numerous other books.

Chris Matthews, Host of Hardball with Chris Matthews (MSNBC) and The Chris Matthews Show (NBC News); author of several best-sellers; regular commentator on NBC’s Today Show.

Herman Daly, Professor of ecological economics at the University of Maryland; cofounder of the International Society for Ecological Economics; author of Beyond Growth and Steady-State Economics; coauthor of For the Common Good; recipient of the Right Livelihood Award.

David Suzuki, Cofounder of the David Suzuki Foundation; host of television program The Nature of Things; author of The Sacred Balance; Companion of the Order of Canada.

Bill McKibben, Global warming activist; author of The End of Nature, Deep Economy, and Eaarth (among other books); founder of

Caroline Lucas, Member of British Parliament; former member of European Parliament; leader of the Green Party of England and Wales.

Vandana Shiva, Director of the Research Foundation on Science, Technology, and Ecology; author of Water Wars:  Pollution, Profits, and Privatization and Biopiracy: The Plunder of Nature and Knowledge; recipient of the Right Livelihood Award.

Wendell Berry, Farmer; author of more than forty books; past fellow of both the Guggenheim Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation.

Here is their position statement:


1) Economic growth, as defined in standard economics textbooks, is an increase in the production and consumption of goods and services, and;

2) Economic growth occurs when there is an increase in the multiplied product of population and per capita consumption, and;

3) The global economy grows as an integrated whole consisting of agricultural, extractive, manufacturing, and services sectors that require physical inputs and produce wastes, and;

4) Economic growth is often and generally indicated by increasing real gross domestic product (GDP) or real gross national product (GNP), and;

5) Economic growth has been a primary, perennial goal of many societies and most governments, and;

6) Based upon established principles of physics and ecology, there is a limit to economic growth, and;

7) There is increasing evidence that global economic growth is having negative effects on long-term ecological and economic welfare…

Therefore, we take the position that:

1) There is a fundamental conflict between economic growth and environmental protection (for example, biodiversity conservation, clean air and water, atmospheric stability), and;

2) There is a fundamental conflict between economic growth and the ecological services underpinning the human economy (for example, pollination, decomposition, climate regulation), and;

3) Technological progress has had many positive and negative ecological and economic effects and may not be depended on to reconcile the conflict between economic growth and long-term ecological and economic welfare, and;

4) Economic growth, as gauged by increasing GDP, is an increasingly dangerous and anachronistic goal, especially in wealthy nations with widespread affluence, and;

5) A steady state economy (that is, an economy with a relatively stable, mildly fluctuating product of population and per capita consumption) is a viable alternative to a growing economy and has become a more appropriate goal in large, wealthy economies, and;

6) The long-run sustainability of a steady state economy requires its establishment at a size small enough to avoid the breaching of reduced ecological and economic capacity during expected or unexpected supply shocks such as droughts and energy shortages, and;

7) A steady state economy does not preclude economic development, a dynamic, qualitative process in which different technologies may be employed and the relative prominence of economic sectors may evolve, and;

8) Upon establishing a steady state economy, it would be advisable for wealthy nations to assist other nations in moving from the goal of economic growth to the goal of a steady state economy, beginning with those nations currently enjoying high levels of per capita consumption, and;

9) For many nations with widespread poverty, increasing per capita consumption (or, alternatively, more equitable distributions of wealth) remains an appropriate goal.

Does the CASSE Position Change with the Times?

The CASSE position has been available for e-signing since May 1, 2004.  Although it was designed with global implications, it was also focused to some degree on economic growth in the United States.  It was slightly revised on June 3, 2008, to reflect growing concerns about global economic growth and the need for wealthy nations to take the first steps in moving toward a steady state economy.  CASSE does not modify the technical aspects of the position, as these are based on long-established scientific principles.  The original CASSE position is posted here, with the revisions readily discernible.

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